Yes, I'm back with the "unknown parents" theories. Now this particular Descendant is very interesting. He's one of the only of the Wicked World characters with a parent I haven't made a theory about (feel free to check Freddie,and CJ's other parents too). Today. I'm figuring out who is Zevon's father.
Now, Zevon is a very interesting character. From the looks of it, he doesn't seem like Yzma's son at all. In the Descendants Universe, almost all the Descendants have a name matching their parent (Mal-Maleficent, Jay-Jafar, Freddie-Facilier, Ally-Alice, Audrey-Aurora etc.) but not Zevon. His sister Yzla (From the book series) has a matching name. Another thing noticable is his outfit. Evie wears a lot of blue and royal red like her mother, Mal loves purple and all the others have their parents' colors too. Zevon prefers too wear turqoise colors and even dyed part of his hair that color. Somewhere online (though I don't think it was canon Disney ;-) ) I read:
"It's the only thing Yzma revealed to her two children about their father: He loved the color blue"
Since Zevon is sixteen, he was conceived four years after the barrier shot. The Isle is only for villains, so we know that his father is a villain and he likes the color blue. There is one option:
Yep, they even have the same sence of humor. And Hades is the only villain GOD, so it explaines why Yzma (who is according to Kuzco a living dinosaur and very old) can have two children. So what do you think? Could Hades be Zevon's father? I tried finding an animated (that's the rule for Descendants) villain with a name that starts with a Z but I only found cars and robots.
Bonus theory: I think Zevon and Yzla are twins, if you didn't know Yzla is Yzma's daughter. This would explain why they are both 16, and twins run in families. Yzma has two twin nephews. This would mean they are Hadie's half-siblings or full siblings? What do you think? Let me know in the comments below, please.
woensdag 23 augustus 2017
dinsdag 15 augustus 2017
Descendants theory: The people you missed in Descendants and Descendants 2...
Today, I'm not doing a "Who is the unknown parent of the Descendants character"-theory, I'm showing y'all people you may have missed in the movies. Please keep in mind that these are theories, so don't expect Disney (Channel) to confirm this. This is a lot guessier than the previous theories...
Lumière
Yes, we saw Lumière in Descendants 2. But, according to my information we could see him in the very first scene of the first Descendants movie. Proof for this is the last chapter of the book Isle of the Lost: A Descendants Novel, Ben says he is looking out the window with Lumière measuring him for his coronation suit. The book is stated to happen RIGHT before the movie, so it matches. Another proof is that he has a french accent. As he says: "'ead" instead of "head". A silent h is a sign of a french accent.
Fifi/Plumette/Babette
You know, the feather duster of Beauty and the Beast and Lumière's girlfriend. I really don't have any proof she is in fact this woman but they appear much alike...
King Chad Charming Sr. and Queen Cinderella
During the coronation scene, Cinderella and King Charming are seen directly behind their son Chad. King Charming is wearing a suit that matches Chad's own suit exactly and Cinderella appears much like her animated self. If you say: Dude, these aren't theories: this is from the Descendants Wiki, I can say I added them. MichielK is Michiel Korte, so me. Check it.
Li Mulan and Li Shang, Lonnie's mother and father
Sorry for the bad picture. In the Coronation scene, we can see Lonnie leading her mother Mulan forward and a man stands close in a military Chinese suit that clearly resembles Li Shang's. I bet anything it is Li Shang. Too bad, Li Shang Jr. (Lonnie's older brother) wasn't there.
Dopey, Dopey's wife (Doug's parents)
We know for a fact that Doug is Dopey's son. So, we can assume this man looking proud at his son being all dressed up is Dopey and the woman who is later seen tying his bow-tie is his mother. Unfortunatly we don't have a name for the mother. She does carry a bit of a Spanish appearence, though and Doug's line in Did I Mention? is:
"Un, dos, tres, quatro.."
So, I added the page about Doug's mother.
King Phillip and Queen Aurora (Sleeping Beauty) , Audrey's parents
On Family Day, there are two people looking proud at Audrey and applauding. You could think: that doesn't proof anything. But, the same people are seen with her in the coronation scene with Audrey in matching gowns and royal uniforms. Aurora's dress also looks like Queen Leah's who would be Aurora's mother. I am quite positive these two people are the Royals from Auroria, in the South Riding.
Almost all the royals from Auradon (In Descendants 2!)
Sorry I couldn't get a better picture but I think the people on the left and right of Mal and Lumière are the official Disney Princesses.
Left to the right:
Princess Ariël, Prince Eric, Li Mulan, Li Shand, Queen Tiana, King Naveen of Bayou, Dopey, Doug's mother, Jasmine, Aladdin, Queen Aurora, King Phillip, Queen Cinderella, King Chad Charming Sr.
Aladdin and Jasmine are confirmed so I think the rest will follow. Cinderella, King Charming, Aurora, Dopey, Phillip, Doug's moter, Mulan and Shang are all the same actors from the coronation in Descendants.
These are my theories about the backgrounders! Let my know what you think!
Left to the right:
Princess Ariël, Prince Eric, Li Mulan, Li Shand, Queen Tiana, King Naveen of Bayou, Dopey, Doug's mother, Jasmine, Aladdin, Queen Aurora, King Phillip, Queen Cinderella, King Chad Charming Sr.
Aladdin and Jasmine are confirmed so I think the rest will follow. Cinderella, King Charming, Aurora, Dopey, Phillip, Doug's moter, Mulan and Shang are all the same actors from the coronation in Descendants.
These are my theories about the backgrounders! Let my know what you think!
vrijdag 11 augustus 2017
Descendants theory: Who is Jane's father?
Ah, Jane. One of the very few Auradon Prep children with only one (known parent). If you didn't know, Jane is the sweet 14 year old daughter of the Fairy Godmother, making her and Mal (Maleficent's daughter) the most powerful Descendants of the entire group. Bonus fact: Brenna D'Amico (Jane's portrayer in the movies) is the only one of the main actors to be the same age as their character while shooting Descendants.
She is also the only Descendant with a name that doesn't match their parent, besides Evie but Queen Grimhilde is mostly known as the Evil Queen.
But maybe it matches her father...
The first person to check is Fairy Godmother, Jane's mother ofcourse. Since she's all about making others find their true love in their stories, I think Jane's father is a character from the original 1953 movie Cinderella. If we follow the rule (That golden Descendants rule) that the first letter of a name must match their parents, we come to two possible fathers:
Jaq (originally the mouse) is one of Cinderella's closest friends. In Cinderella 2, Jaq is turned into a human by Fairy Godmother, but eventually he is turned back into a mouse. Jane makes multiple mouse-like noises in the first movie. Always wondered why, they could've just filmed Jane running away nervously from Mal. Maybe it's a hint? He doesn't appear on Family Day though. And if you say:
"Michiel, you might not believe it, but what if in the Descendants universe...he died?"
Well, that my friends is not possible, in the Book Isle of the Lost and Return to the Isle of the Lost, Jaq is mentioned to be alive (and a mouse) and also he has a place in the council of sidekicks and is in a relationship with the mouse Mary. Fairy Godmother doesn't appear to be someone that breaks up someone's relationship because she is in love with that person.
The Duke, we don't know his real name. Just like Jane, he can be a little awkward at socializing and is very nervous to do his best. Personally, I think this is Jane's father. He doesn't appear at Family Day, but that can be due to business at the court of Cinderellasburg. It is mentioned in Return of the Isle of the Lost he is a busy man. But I do think we see him in Descendants 2, he is talking to Fairy Godmother while looking at Jane in a Cinderellasburg outfit...
So what do you think? Could the Duke or Jaq be Jane's father. Let me know in the comments!
She is also the only Descendant with a name that doesn't match their parent, besides Evie but Queen Grimhilde is mostly known as the Evil Queen.
But maybe it matches her father...
The first person to check is Fairy Godmother, Jane's mother ofcourse. Since she's all about making others find their true love in their stories, I think Jane's father is a character from the original 1953 movie Cinderella. If we follow the rule (That golden Descendants rule) that the first letter of a name must match their parents, we come to two possible fathers:
Jaq (originally the mouse) is one of Cinderella's closest friends. In Cinderella 2, Jaq is turned into a human by Fairy Godmother, but eventually he is turned back into a mouse. Jane makes multiple mouse-like noises in the first movie. Always wondered why, they could've just filmed Jane running away nervously from Mal. Maybe it's a hint? He doesn't appear on Family Day though. And if you say:
"Michiel, you might not believe it, but what if in the Descendants universe...he died?"
Well, that my friends is not possible, in the Book Isle of the Lost and Return to the Isle of the Lost, Jaq is mentioned to be alive (and a mouse) and also he has a place in the council of sidekicks and is in a relationship with the mouse Mary. Fairy Godmother doesn't appear to be someone that breaks up someone's relationship because she is in love with that person.
The Duke, we don't know his real name. Just like Jane, he can be a little awkward at socializing and is very nervous to do his best. Personally, I think this is Jane's father. He doesn't appear at Family Day, but that can be due to business at the court of Cinderellasburg. It is mentioned in Return of the Isle of the Lost he is a busy man. But I do think we see him in Descendants 2, he is talking to Fairy Godmother while looking at Jane in a Cinderellasburg outfit...
So what do you think? Could the Duke or Jaq be Jane's father. Let me know in the comments!
woensdag 9 augustus 2017
Descendants theory: Who is Dizzy Tremaine's father
Hello there everybody! It's me again with a new theory. I previously theorized on Uma's father, Gil's mother and Harry's mother from Descendants 2 but there's another new VK in town thanks to Descendants 2. Today, I will figure out Dizzy Tremaine's father...
Can we just stop for a moment and get one thing straight: Dizzy Tremaine is the most lazy name Disney could come up with. At the very least they should have chosen a french name (with a D if that's very necessary). I'm hoping it's a nickname from Izzy or Izabel.
Focus Michiel! OK, so Dizzy's father isn't mentioned in the least by Dizzy or anyone in the Descendants universe but I'll try.
Since Dizzy was conceived ten years after all the villains were banished to the Isle of the Lost, we know her father must be a villain. And male, if you don't get why it must be a man, I suppose you should read some biology books because this is not that kind of a blog.
So, a male Disney villain. What else? Anna Catchcart (And her character Dizzy) are both redheads. Since Drizella has black/brown hair we can assume it must be a redhead father.
So far: Male, Disney villain, redhead.
Another thing: have you noticed how every Descendant introduces theirselves like: "Hi, I'm the Evil Queen's daughter" or "My mom's Aurora, Sleeping Beauty and Phillip" or "I'm Lonnie, my mom's Mulan".
As annoying as it is, it does give us a clue: If your father is an alive famous villain, you would tell people about it. So what I think is that Dizzy's father is dead or runaway. So, if my theory is correctly:
1) Must be a Disney Villain
2) Must be a man
3) Must be a redhead
4) Must not be mentioned to be alive and or have children in Descendants, Descendants 2, Isle of the Lost and it's sequels, School of Secrets or Descendants: Wicked World.
Unfortunatly, a lot of people fit that Description: Alameda Slim, Stabbington brothers, Prince Hans from Frozen, Syndrome from Incredibles, Giant from Mickey Mouse as Jack the Giant Slayer, King John from Robin Hood and so on. These are the few that make a chance, I think.
But there's one missing link:
Drizella and Lady Tremaine. I might be going on a stretch here but Lady Tremaine is nobility and cares about that very much. She already lost one daughter to a simple and humble Baker, I don't think Drizella could pull of the same. So, I'm counting out all the male redhead Disney villains who aren't mentioned to be alive who aren't nobility. Then only two men stay on our list: Prince John from Robin Hood and Prince Hans from Frozen. Now, I'm not thinking Lady Tremaine would let her daughter aim as low as Prince John, so my final answer:
There is however more proof that Dizzy is Hans' daughters. Hans has always been tormented by his twelve (!) elder brothers. We know his eldest brother is named Caleb, the third eldest is a historian named Lars, there are some twins named Rudy and Runo and the youngest three are Rechtaid and Cormac and Hans. They always teased him about being the smallest, youngest and weakest. Dizzy has a lot in common. She has a few sisters (According to Azalea Hart on youtube 6 older sisters) that don't appear in Descendants 2 doing chores all day for her grandmother. Dizzy isn't mentioned to be going to the party with them in the book Isle of the Lost: A Descendants Novel. Instead, she is teased by them and has to stay at home sweeping all day.
I think Dizzy is a lot like Hans before he got older and more bitter. Dizzy reminds her mother constantly of her lost lover. That's why she is teased and tormented by her family.
This is my theory on Dizzy's father. Let me know what you thought about it in the comments! See you next time!
Can we just stop for a moment and get one thing straight: Dizzy Tremaine is the most lazy name Disney could come up with. At the very least they should have chosen a french name (with a D if that's very necessary). I'm hoping it's a nickname from Izzy or Izabel.
Focus Michiel! OK, so Dizzy's father isn't mentioned in the least by Dizzy or anyone in the Descendants universe but I'll try.
Since Dizzy was conceived ten years after all the villains were banished to the Isle of the Lost, we know her father must be a villain. And male, if you don't get why it must be a man, I suppose you should read some biology books because this is not that kind of a blog.
So, a male Disney villain. What else? Anna Catchcart (And her character Dizzy) are both redheads. Since Drizella has black/brown hair we can assume it must be a redhead father.
So far: Male, Disney villain, redhead.
Another thing: have you noticed how every Descendant introduces theirselves like: "Hi, I'm the Evil Queen's daughter" or "My mom's Aurora, Sleeping Beauty and Phillip" or "I'm Lonnie, my mom's Mulan".
As annoying as it is, it does give us a clue: If your father is an alive famous villain, you would tell people about it. So what I think is that Dizzy's father is dead or runaway. So, if my theory is correctly:
1) Must be a Disney Villain
2) Must be a man
3) Must be a redhead
4) Must not be mentioned to be alive and or have children in Descendants, Descendants 2, Isle of the Lost and it's sequels, School of Secrets or Descendants: Wicked World.
Unfortunatly, a lot of people fit that Description: Alameda Slim, Stabbington brothers, Prince Hans from Frozen, Syndrome from Incredibles, Giant from Mickey Mouse as Jack the Giant Slayer, King John from Robin Hood and so on. These are the few that make a chance, I think.
But there's one missing link:
Drizella and Lady Tremaine. I might be going on a stretch here but Lady Tremaine is nobility and cares about that very much. She already lost one daughter to a simple and humble Baker, I don't think Drizella could pull of the same. So, I'm counting out all the male redhead Disney villains who aren't mentioned to be alive who aren't nobility. Then only two men stay on our list: Prince John from Robin Hood and Prince Hans from Frozen. Now, I'm not thinking Lady Tremaine would let her daughter aim as low as Prince John, so my final answer:
There is however more proof that Dizzy is Hans' daughters. Hans has always been tormented by his twelve (!) elder brothers. We know his eldest brother is named Caleb, the third eldest is a historian named Lars, there are some twins named Rudy and Runo and the youngest three are Rechtaid and Cormac and Hans. They always teased him about being the smallest, youngest and weakest. Dizzy has a lot in common. She has a few sisters (According to Azalea Hart on youtube 6 older sisters) that don't appear in Descendants 2 doing chores all day for her grandmother. Dizzy isn't mentioned to be going to the party with them in the book Isle of the Lost: A Descendants Novel. Instead, she is teased by them and has to stay at home sweeping all day.
I think Dizzy is a lot like Hans before he got older and more bitter. Dizzy reminds her mother constantly of her lost lover. That's why she is teased and tormented by her family.
This is my theory on Dizzy's father. Let me know what you thought about it in the comments! See you next time!
dinsdag 8 augustus 2017
Descendants theory: Who is Anthony Tremaine's father (The Baker?)
I do really love the books: Isle of the Lost, Return to the Isle of the Lost and I must read Rise of the Isle of the Lost once it's available in my country. In the books, Lady Tremaine's only grandson plays a part: Anthony Tremaine, Chad Charming's step-cousin.
Unfortunatly, we don't see Anthony in live-action or the animated series Wicked World. He is described as having "dark hair"and I thought: "Yes, his mother is then probably Drizella, as she had dark hair. Finally Disney made a Descendant with a name that doesn't match his/hers parent!!!"
But here's the thing: the Baker has strawberry blonde hair. And Anastasia red. After some math and biology tests, I figured out their child will have a 50% chance of strawberry blonde hair and a 50% chance of red hair. And since Anthony has dark hair, it's very unlikely the Baker is his father. BUT, since I ship the Baker and Anastasia so much I searched further and found an answer with Dizzy (Anthony's cousin)
In the movie (Descendants 2) Mal wants her hair dyed and asked Dizzy: "Hey Dizzy, you used to do Evie, right?"
And Dizzy answers: "Yeah, I thought of the little braids!"
But what if Dizzy has done more then that? Maybe, she dyed Evie's hair blue. After all, the Evil Queen doesn't have blue hair, but black as proven in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs...
So, what does this have to do with anything? Could it be Lady Tremaine (Who owns a shop called "Lady Tremaine's Curl up and DYE(!!!!)) once experimented and gave her grandson dark hair, and he really liked it. It is also mentioned Dizzy dyed her own hair, and Mad Maddy's hair is dyed so maybe it's a trend on the Isle. I also don't believe Um's hair is fully her original.
So I believe, when Auradon was founded and the villains were banned to the Isle, Anastasia (redeemed) felt responsible and joined her sister Drizella and her mother Madonna Tremaine (that's btw her only mentioned first name in Disney media). The Baker loved Anastasia so much he joined her on the Isle freely.
So what do you think? Could the Baker be Anthony's father? And what would their relationship be? Tell me in the comments!
Unfortunatly, we don't see Anthony in live-action or the animated series Wicked World. He is described as having "dark hair"and I thought: "Yes, his mother is then probably Drizella, as she had dark hair. Finally Disney made a Descendant with a name that doesn't match his/hers parent!!!"
I was wrong
In the sequel, it is specifically stated Anastasia is his mother. Then I (as a Theorizer) get the question: Who is Anthony's father (and also his numerous sisters). The most obvious answer:But here's the thing: the Baker has strawberry blonde hair. And Anastasia red. After some math and biology tests, I figured out their child will have a 50% chance of strawberry blonde hair and a 50% chance of red hair. And since Anthony has dark hair, it's very unlikely the Baker is his father. BUT, since I ship the Baker and Anastasia so much I searched further and found an answer with Dizzy (Anthony's cousin)
In the movie (Descendants 2) Mal wants her hair dyed and asked Dizzy: "Hey Dizzy, you used to do Evie, right?"
And Dizzy answers: "Yeah, I thought of the little braids!"
But what if Dizzy has done more then that? Maybe, she dyed Evie's hair blue. After all, the Evil Queen doesn't have blue hair, but black as proven in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs...
So, what does this have to do with anything? Could it be Lady Tremaine (Who owns a shop called "Lady Tremaine's Curl up and DYE(!!!!)) once experimented and gave her grandson dark hair, and he really liked it. It is also mentioned Dizzy dyed her own hair, and Mad Maddy's hair is dyed so maybe it's a trend on the Isle. I also don't believe Um's hair is fully her original.
So I believe, when Auradon was founded and the villains were banned to the Isle, Anastasia (redeemed) felt responsible and joined her sister Drizella and her mother Madonna Tremaine (that's btw her only mentioned first name in Disney media). The Baker loved Anastasia so much he joined her on the Isle freely.
So what do you think? Could the Baker be Anthony's father? And what would their relationship be? Tell me in the comments!
zaterdag 5 augustus 2017
Descendants theory: Who is Harry's mother?
In Descendants 2, there are four new villain kids: Uma (daughter of Ursula), Gil (son of Gaston), Harry (son of Captain Hook) and Dizzy Tremaine (daughter of Drizella Tremaine).
Previously, I discovered out who Uma's father and Gil's mother are (feel free to check out those theories). Today, I will figure out who the mother is of Harry, and his sisters Harriet and Calista Jane (CJ).
Unfortunately, Harriet only appears in the books and is yet to be seen. CJ had an appearence in Descendants: Wicked World and Harry (ofcourse) was a main role in Descendants 2.
The first question popping to mind is: are they really siblings? Because Descendants 2 universe and Isle of the Lost (the novels) universe kinda are different things. And then there's the fact that Wicked World events never are mentioned in the movies...
Stop right there! These books aren't some crazy Wattpad fanfiction, they are canon. Acknoledged by Disney, the third book says Harry is the middle child and has one older sister (Harriet) and one younger sister (CJ). Their names are mentioned too in the book. So it's canon they are siblings ( half-siblings could be possible but since it isn't confirmed...).
The first clue I have is CJ's hair color. The blonde haircolor is very often recessive in genetics. That means in most cases it's impossible for two black or brown haired parents to have a blonde child. So it's very likely (VERY VERY VERY LIKELY), I mean 99,99999999% likely for the mother to be blonde. She also must be a villain, since Harriet, Harry and CJ were conceived on the Isle of the Lost. Nobody but villains can be there (this rule is only broken for Yen Sid). And since the mother is not mentioned to be alive by any of the kids, she must not be mentioned to be alive during the books, series or movies.
So the mother must be a villain, female, blonde and not mentioned to be alive during the movies or books or series. Only one person fits it all:
Yep, it's villain Helga Sinclair from Atlantis: the Lost Empire. She is literally the only blonde female villain that exists in Disney movies. And she fits it all, yet I found more...
Harry Hook (Just like his portrayer Thomas 'O Doherty) has a Scottish accent. So you can imagine I was dissapointed when I found out Helga was actually born in Frankfurt, Germany and not Scotland. But, then I thought, If the family Sinclair moved a lot after Helga was born, can it be possible for them to have moved before she was born. After some research I found out Sinclair is actually a Scottish clan.
My mind=BOOM
So I imagine the family speaking English with a Scottish accent (or even Gaelec, the original Scottish language) with eachother. Helga speaks perfectly English with the crew in her movie debut, but it's very plausible for her to speak English with a Scottish accent or even Gaelec with her family. This is how she passes it on to Harriet and Harry. What can be possible is that she died during labor (it's the Isle after all) and that's why CJ doesn't speak with an Scottish accent. Might I add that the Disney wiki states Helga was married and widowed before...
So what do you think? Please let me know if you think Helga Sinclair could be the mother of Harriet Hook, Harry Hook or CJ Hook.
Previously, I discovered out who Uma's father and Gil's mother are (feel free to check out those theories). Today, I will figure out who the mother is of Harry, and his sisters Harriet and Calista Jane (CJ).
Unfortunately, Harriet only appears in the books and is yet to be seen. CJ had an appearence in Descendants: Wicked World and Harry (ofcourse) was a main role in Descendants 2.
The first question popping to mind is: are they really siblings? Because Descendants 2 universe and Isle of the Lost (the novels) universe kinda are different things. And then there's the fact that Wicked World events never are mentioned in the movies...
Stop right there! These books aren't some crazy Wattpad fanfiction, they are canon. Acknoledged by Disney, the third book says Harry is the middle child and has one older sister (Harriet) and one younger sister (CJ). Their names are mentioned too in the book. So it's canon they are siblings ( half-siblings could be possible but since it isn't confirmed...).
The first clue I have is CJ's hair color. The blonde haircolor is very often recessive in genetics. That means in most cases it's impossible for two black or brown haired parents to have a blonde child. So it's very likely (VERY VERY VERY LIKELY), I mean 99,99999999% likely for the mother to be blonde. She also must be a villain, since Harriet, Harry and CJ were conceived on the Isle of the Lost. Nobody but villains can be there (this rule is only broken for Yen Sid). And since the mother is not mentioned to be alive by any of the kids, she must not be mentioned to be alive during the books, series or movies.
So the mother must be a villain, female, blonde and not mentioned to be alive during the movies or books or series. Only one person fits it all:
Yep, it's villain Helga Sinclair from Atlantis: the Lost Empire. She is literally the only blonde female villain that exists in Disney movies. And she fits it all, yet I found more...
Harry Hook (Just like his portrayer Thomas 'O Doherty) has a Scottish accent. So you can imagine I was dissapointed when I found out Helga was actually born in Frankfurt, Germany and not Scotland. But, then I thought, If the family Sinclair moved a lot after Helga was born, can it be possible for them to have moved before she was born. After some research I found out Sinclair is actually a Scottish clan.
My mind=BOOM
So I imagine the family speaking English with a Scottish accent (or even Gaelec, the original Scottish language) with eachother. Helga speaks perfectly English with the crew in her movie debut, but it's very plausible for her to speak English with a Scottish accent or even Gaelec with her family. This is how she passes it on to Harriet and Harry. What can be possible is that she died during labor (it's the Isle after all) and that's why CJ doesn't speak with an Scottish accent. Might I add that the Disney wiki states Helga was married and widowed before...
So what do you think? Please let me know if you think Helga Sinclair could be the mother of Harriet Hook, Harry Hook or CJ Hook.
Descendants theory: Who is Jay's mother?
Hello there again! Today I'll find out Jay's mother for you. As a bonus, I'll give you an explanation of Jay's family tree.
So, in Descendants Jay's father is Jafar. There is no speculation about that. It's said in the movies, books, fanfiction's you name it. In the book Isle of the Lost: A Descendants Novel by Melissa de la Cruz (Which is canon btw) Jay speaks about his mother one time:
"Don't look at me, I don't even have a mother..."
Now, Jay is always very specific. If you check his lines in the movie, you see that he never beats around the bush.
Now, almost all the children on the Isle of the Lost have one parent. The other one is or deceased or unknown. Jay always tells what he knows, if he didn't know his mother he would have said:
"Don't look at me, I don't even know my mother..."
But I don't even have a mother indicates that he had one. So, we know it must be someone who is deceased. A deceased female villain with a eastern appearence (otherwise Jay would have looked different, let's be honest (See my theory 'bout Uma's father)). And guess what, I found
Anyways, I think that the girl in the pink outfit from Jafar's harem joined him on the Isle and then died somewhere between four and twenty years later.
So, in Descendants Jay's father is Jafar. There is no speculation about that. It's said in the movies, books, fanfiction's you name it. In the book Isle of the Lost: A Descendants Novel by Melissa de la Cruz (Which is canon btw) Jay speaks about his mother one time:
"Don't look at me, I don't even have a mother..."
Now, Jay is always very specific. If you check his lines in the movie, you see that he never beats around the bush.
Now, almost all the children on the Isle of the Lost have one parent. The other one is or deceased or unknown. Jay always tells what he knows, if he didn't know his mother he would have said:
"Don't look at me, I don't even know my mother..."
But I don't even have a mother indicates that he had one. So, we know it must be someone who is deceased. A deceased female villain with a eastern appearence (otherwise Jay would have looked different, let's be honest (See my theory 'bout Uma's father)). And guess what, I found
Nobody
Or you have to count Nasira (Jafar's twin sister) and I don't because
1) Inbreed
2) Jay mentions his cousin Jade, also on the Isle who is Nasira's daughter. Since Jay must have known his mother, he would refer to Jade as his (half)sister if this case were true.
So, I looked around the Aladdin universe instead of Disney , Descendants or villains and then I found
These girls referred to as the Harem Girls. Always wondered, who do they belong to. A Harem often means a room where the woman of a particulair islam man reside. Mostly there are around six. So, why can't these Harem Girls be Jafar's. It's never mentioned he actually lives in the palace, only he works there, has a dungeon lair there etc. Woman who belong to the same Harem often wear the same outfit. When Jafar wants to make Jasmine his wife, he dresses her in a similair outfit:
I read that only rich men in ancient Eastern cities had a harem. And Jafar must be the second-richest man in Agrabah, besides ofcourse the Sultan. It would be weird if he doesn't had a Harem. But then I hear myself (and you probably) think:
"But they aren't villains. And Jay was conceived on the Isle of the Lost, you know: the prison of all Disney VILLAINS.
"But they aren't villains. And Jay was conceived on the Isle of the Lost, you know: the prison of all Disney VILLAINS.
I thought so too, untill I discovered something in the video clip of One Jump Ahead. The girl in the pink dress (the middle one on the previous picture) actually THROWS Aladdin out of a window. It might have been "self-defence" since he just snuck in their Harem, but still it isn't smart to attempt murder on the protaganist and the future Sultan:
I know, he didn't die but there are people who had gone to the Isle doing less:
Edgar from the Aristo Cats stole cats and was send away to the Isle of the Lost. Aladdin stole more in one day. Something's seriously wrong with law and order in Auradon.
Anyways, I think that the girl in the pink outfit from Jafar's harem joined him on the Isle and then died somewhere between four and twenty years later.
This is my theory on who is Jay's father. Please let me know your thoughts about it!
There is one thing bugging my theory: many people say they appear as bridesmaids on Jasmine and Aladdin's wedding. Making it appear like there are no hard feelings. But the sequels don't appear in the Descendants Universe, as is proven by Anastasia Tremaine being there even though she is redeemed in Cinderella II and Cinderella III: A Twist in Time.
There is one thing bugging my theory: many people say they appear as bridesmaids on Jasmine and Aladdin's wedding. Making it appear like there are no hard feelings. But the sequels don't appear in the Descendants Universe, as is proven by Anastasia Tremaine being there even though she is redeemed in Cinderella II and Cinderella III: A Twist in Time.
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Descendants theory: Who is Mal's father
Descendants is my favorite movie. But something bugged me: Mal, Evie, Jay and Carlos all miss one parent and it's not explained if they are all dead. And DON'T tell me that theory that Jafar is the father of everyone, that's nonsence. Today I am figuring out who Mal's real birth father is.
Thank god we have the book Isle of the Lost: a Descendants Novel. There Mal's father is mentioned multiple times so we can build our theory on something. The book is by the way canon. So in the book, we learn that all Villains were banished to the island 20 years before the movie starts. Mal (Or rather: Maleficent Jr.) is 16, this means she was conceived and born on the Isle. Now, I have a hard time imagining a Hero going to the Isle freely (brave enough to b*ng Maleficent) and go back. So it must be a villain. Now , there are enough male villains who could be Mal's father (Don't bring up Jafar). But Maleficent and Mal clearly mention he is dead. Many of the male villains are mentioned to be very much alive on the Isle of the Lost and/or have children.
Maleficent also mentions him as a week human. ("Or you'll be like him Mal! Like your father, a pathetic little human!). So those are five things we already know about Mal's father:
1) He's a villain.
2) He's deceased.
3) He's human.
4) He's week/pathetic.
5) He is whatever you mean with "little".
Then it hit me, the one person officially lined as a villain who fit it perfectly: the King of Hearts
He even is blond, like Mal in the second movie. Although officially he is a villain (according to the villain list on the official Disney wiki) he does have a good heart and tries to rescue Alice from his insane wife.
But why would the proud and glorious Maleficent have a relationship with the little nerd? Remember, Maleficent was trapped, without magic and defeated on the Isle. I bet she needed someone that respected and admired her. After all, we know the King of Hearts has a thing for crazy powerful woman that overrule him. He isn't mentioned to be alive in the books, maybe Maleficent killed him after seeing he wanted to raise her daughter Mal.
Let me know what you think about this theory! Do you think the King of Hearts could be Mal's father.
PS: I think I'll be doing every villain kid we don't know the parent of except for Carlos. He is my favorite character, but there is just way too little known about his father. I tried three times now, it's too hard for me but maybe not you! Let me know who you think is Carlos' dad or the father of a other villain kid.
Thank god we have the book Isle of the Lost: a Descendants Novel. There Mal's father is mentioned multiple times so we can build our theory on something. The book is by the way canon. So in the book, we learn that all Villains were banished to the island 20 years before the movie starts. Mal (Or rather: Maleficent Jr.) is 16, this means she was conceived and born on the Isle. Now, I have a hard time imagining a Hero going to the Isle freely (brave enough to b*ng Maleficent) and go back. So it must be a villain. Now , there are enough male villains who could be Mal's father (Don't bring up Jafar). But Maleficent and Mal clearly mention he is dead. Many of the male villains are mentioned to be very much alive on the Isle of the Lost and/or have children.
Maleficent also mentions him as a week human. ("Or you'll be like him Mal! Like your father, a pathetic little human!). So those are five things we already know about Mal's father:
1) He's a villain.
2) He's deceased.
3) He's human.
4) He's week/pathetic.
5) He is whatever you mean with "little".
Then it hit me, the one person officially lined as a villain who fit it perfectly: the King of Hearts
He even is blond, like Mal in the second movie. Although officially he is a villain (according to the villain list on the official Disney wiki) he does have a good heart and tries to rescue Alice from his insane wife.
But why would the proud and glorious Maleficent have a relationship with the little nerd? Remember, Maleficent was trapped, without magic and defeated on the Isle. I bet she needed someone that respected and admired her. After all, we know the King of Hearts has a thing for crazy powerful woman that overrule him. He isn't mentioned to be alive in the books, maybe Maleficent killed him after seeing he wanted to raise her daughter Mal.
Let me know what you think about this theory! Do you think the King of Hearts could be Mal's father.
PS: I think I'll be doing every villain kid we don't know the parent of except for Carlos. He is my favorite character, but there is just way too little known about his father. I tried three times now, it's too hard for me but maybe not you! Let me know who you think is Carlos' dad or the father of a other villain kid.
Descendants theory: Who is Gil's mother?
I have recently watched Descendants 2 and I was really pleased with how it turned out. Usually you have something called the Sequel Curse, that's why sequels somethimes turn out bad. One thing I hoped to see in Descendants 2 was who the other parents are (Carlos', Evie's and Mal's father or Jay's mother). But no, so in honour of Descendants 2 I am finding out now the mother of Gil (And his brothers)
So we know who Gil's dad is (obviously). It's Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. Last time I figured out Uma's father, now I'll find Gil's mother. Now with Mal and Uma and everyone I'll have to find a parent for It's hard to find because they all look so much like their famous parent. Gil however doesn't resemble Gaston. Gil also has two older brothers, twins named Gaston Jr. and Gaston III. So let's take a look at Gaston himself.
Gaston is a jerk. It's the one thing he is known for. So (In contrary to all the other "Other Parents"of Descendants) I don't think Gil's mother is a villain. Villains are usually arrogant. So I don't imagine a female Disney villain hooking herself up with some jerk and then give birth to three sons. Like Yen Sid (teacher at Dragon Hall who is not a villain) I imagine a woman coming to the isle with Gaston out of free will. Now I imagine you thinking: Who on earth would live with that sexist out of free will. You'll be surprised I found three woman who might:
You guessed it: The Bimbettes, or the Silly Girls. They go by many names these triplets. Disney confirmed their own names: Claudette (red dress), Laurette (yellow/orange dress) and Paulette (green dress). They are the only ones we see in the original movie Beauty and the Beast to be in love with Gaston.
In Isle of the Lost: a Descendants Novel, it says that villains were brought back to life, only to be sentenced to the Isle. I imagine that when hearing this, the three girls rush to Gaston on the harbour or under the spell of Fairy Godmother and ask if they can come along. Maybe only one. If Gaston is concious he would pick one (remember his dreams of having a lovely little wife who'd give birth to his many sons) . Otherwise, Fairy Godmother would allow it so everyone can have a chance of love.
C'mon that's what Fairy Godmother would do, I'm not going that far off stretch guys!!!
After some research I think I know which one of the three is the mother to Gaston Jr., Gaston III and Gil:
Evie, Mal, Carlos, Jay, Ben and everyone wears their parents main colors. Evie blue and red, Carlos red, white and black and Mal purple, green and pink.
Gaston's official colors are gold and red. Gil wears them (ofcourse) but he also wears yellow, light yellow sometimes. Like the sleeves and apron of Laurette! Unfortunately, this is the only proof I have it's Laurette and not one of the others. But I think Gaston might be the only one staying with his partner after they have kids. Imagine what life would be like for one of the triplets on the Isle without Gaston to protect them. So if it was Paulette (the green dressed lady) that was Gil's mother, I think Gil would wear a bit more green. But really, it could be anyone of the three and it doesn't really matter because the triplets are so much alike, but there is more proof it's Laurette. This information I saw at their page on the Disney Wiki:
I have, however, still more proof to proof it's one of the Bimbettes to be the mother of Gaston's children. Multiples (twins, triplets, quadriplets etc.) run in families. Gaston Jr. and Gaston the Third are twins, and Laurette/Claudette/Paulette are triplets. So that makes sence.
This is my theory on who Gaston's wife is in Descendants. Let me know what you're thinking about this!
So we know who Gil's dad is (obviously). It's Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. Last time I figured out Uma's father, now I'll find Gil's mother. Now with Mal and Uma and everyone I'll have to find a parent for It's hard to find because they all look so much like their famous parent. Gil however doesn't resemble Gaston. Gil also has two older brothers, twins named Gaston Jr. and Gaston III. So let's take a look at Gaston himself.
Gaston is a jerk. It's the one thing he is known for. So (In contrary to all the other "Other Parents"of Descendants) I don't think Gil's mother is a villain. Villains are usually arrogant. So I don't imagine a female Disney villain hooking herself up with some jerk and then give birth to three sons. Like Yen Sid (teacher at Dragon Hall who is not a villain) I imagine a woman coming to the isle with Gaston out of free will. Now I imagine you thinking: Who on earth would live with that sexist out of free will. You'll be surprised I found three woman who might:
You guessed it: The Bimbettes, or the Silly Girls. They go by many names these triplets. Disney confirmed their own names: Claudette (red dress), Laurette (yellow/orange dress) and Paulette (green dress). They are the only ones we see in the original movie Beauty and the Beast to be in love with Gaston.
In Isle of the Lost: a Descendants Novel, it says that villains were brought back to life, only to be sentenced to the Isle. I imagine that when hearing this, the three girls rush to Gaston on the harbour or under the spell of Fairy Godmother and ask if they can come along. Maybe only one. If Gaston is concious he would pick one (remember his dreams of having a lovely little wife who'd give birth to his many sons) . Otherwise, Fairy Godmother would allow it so everyone can have a chance of love.
C'mon that's what Fairy Godmother would do, I'm not going that far off stretch guys!!!
After some research I think I know which one of the three is the mother to Gaston Jr., Gaston III and Gil:
Evie, Mal, Carlos, Jay, Ben and everyone wears their parents main colors. Evie blue and red, Carlos red, white and black and Mal purple, green and pink.
Gaston's official colors are gold and red. Gil wears them (ofcourse) but he also wears yellow, light yellow sometimes. Like the sleeves and apron of Laurette! Unfortunately, this is the only proof I have it's Laurette and not one of the others. But I think Gaston might be the only one staying with his partner after they have kids. Imagine what life would be like for one of the triplets on the Isle without Gaston to protect them. So if it was Paulette (the green dressed lady) that was Gil's mother, I think Gil would wear a bit more green. But really, it could be anyone of the three and it doesn't really matter because the triplets are so much alike, but there is more proof it's Laurette. This information I saw at their page on the Disney Wiki:
- Ironically, despite Belle being considered by the village to be the most beautiful woman in the village, Laurette disguised herself as Belle flawlessly enough to fool Gaston initially, which conflicted with the claim that Belle's looks had no parallel.
I have, however, still more proof to proof it's one of the Bimbettes to be the mother of Gaston's children. Multiples (twins, triplets, quadriplets etc.) run in families. Gaston Jr. and Gaston the Third are twins, and Laurette/Claudette/Paulette are triplets. So that makes sence.
This is my theory on who Gaston's wife is in Descendants. Let me know what you're thinking about this!
Descendants theory: Who is Uma's father?
Descendants theory: Who is Uma's father?
We can all agree that Descendants (and it sequel) is an amazing movie. It's a realistic, yet magic portrayal of the children of characters we all love. Only one thing bugs me (well me and the entire fandom). Except for many Auradon Kids, or AK's (children of heroes and villains) every child has only one parent (the famous one). For example: we know Uma is the daughter of Ursula, but her father is never seen. Yet, I found a canidate.
Let's first talk about everything we know about the father. 20 years before the movies start, all villains are banned to the restricted Isle of the Lost. Restricted as in: nobody but the villains could be there to have the children. So we know Uma's father is a villain. There's something else we know. Ursula's voice in Descendants 2 is provided by Whoopi Goldberg, a black actress so we can assume the Descendants version of Ursula is also black. Just like Wendy Raquel Robinson's portrayal of Cruella de Vil in the first Descendants movie. So let's get something straight: Uma is not tanned or darker skinned, but full black. This means that her father is probably black as well. We also know he must be human, because Uma has legs and her entire maternal family is well octopus.
So far we know Uma's dad is human, a Disney villain and probably black. There is one person who matches it all:...Dr. Facilier.
Yep, Dragon Hall's headmaster is Uma's secretive dad.
Now I hear you thinking: Wow, that's like totally not right, as in you're wrong. Facilier can't be Uma's dad, it's too guessy and how about his family with Freddie???
So I'll defend my theory. Besides the fact that he's the only human black Disney villain KNOWN to be on the Isle, we also have Freddie. Freddie is the daughter of Dr. Facilier and her voice is provided by Lauryn McClain. It used to be Lauryn's sister China, untill she started playing Uma. Disney thought it would be too weird to have two characters with the same actor. And of all the replacements they could find, they chose Lauryn, China's sister. And Lauryn was also chosen to portray the live action Freddie in the Neon Lights Ball special. Now you're thinking: Isn't that logic, Lauryn provides the voice so... But, Jordan and few others had different actors than voice actors on the special. I think Disney is hinting us that Uma and Freddie may be half-sisters, just like their actors are sisters.'
I don't think Freddie and Uma are half-sisters, but sisters. Freddie's hair has some mysterious grey streaks in it and they are exactly the same shade as Ursula's hair. I think Ursula and Dr. Facilier tried to have a villain alliance to grab power on the Isle and got in love. They got Uma first and Freddie second, but then realised that love makes a villain weak and they departed without telling anyone (Even Uma and Freddie) about their relationship.
So what do you think? Please do let me know!
We can all agree that Descendants (and it sequel) is an amazing movie. It's a realistic, yet magic portrayal of the children of characters we all love. Only one thing bugs me (well me and the entire fandom). Except for many Auradon Kids, or AK's (children of heroes and villains) every child has only one parent (the famous one). For example: we know Uma is the daughter of Ursula, but her father is never seen. Yet, I found a canidate.
Let's first talk about everything we know about the father. 20 years before the movies start, all villains are banned to the restricted Isle of the Lost. Restricted as in: nobody but the villains could be there to have the children. So we know Uma's father is a villain. There's something else we know. Ursula's voice in Descendants 2 is provided by Whoopi Goldberg, a black actress so we can assume the Descendants version of Ursula is also black. Just like Wendy Raquel Robinson's portrayal of Cruella de Vil in the first Descendants movie. So let's get something straight: Uma is not tanned or darker skinned, but full black. This means that her father is probably black as well. We also know he must be human, because Uma has legs and her entire maternal family is well octopus.
So far we know Uma's dad is human, a Disney villain and probably black. There is one person who matches it all:...Dr. Facilier.
Yep, Dragon Hall's headmaster is Uma's secretive dad.
Now I hear you thinking: Wow, that's like totally not right, as in you're wrong. Facilier can't be Uma's dad, it's too guessy and how about his family with Freddie???
So I'll defend my theory. Besides the fact that he's the only human black Disney villain KNOWN to be on the Isle, we also have Freddie. Freddie is the daughter of Dr. Facilier and her voice is provided by Lauryn McClain. It used to be Lauryn's sister China, untill she started playing Uma. Disney thought it would be too weird to have two characters with the same actor. And of all the replacements they could find, they chose Lauryn, China's sister. And Lauryn was also chosen to portray the live action Freddie in the Neon Lights Ball special. Now you're thinking: Isn't that logic, Lauryn provides the voice so... But, Jordan and few others had different actors than voice actors on the special. I think Disney is hinting us that Uma and Freddie may be half-sisters, just like their actors are sisters.'
I don't think Freddie and Uma are half-sisters, but sisters. Freddie's hair has some mysterious grey streaks in it and they are exactly the same shade as Ursula's hair. I think Ursula and Dr. Facilier tried to have a villain alliance to grab power on the Isle and got in love. They got Uma first and Freddie second, but then realised that love makes a villain weak and they departed without telling anyone (Even Uma and Freddie) about their relationship.
So what do you think? Please do let me know!
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